First of all, thank you–you’re always good to me and I greatly appreciate it! 
Second, you’re totally right. I’ve only been with the TYT community for a short time and don’t know most of the history. That said, they are adults who have been resorting to (in my opinion) middle-school tactics more as of late and I know they can and must do better.
Third, I hope you’re doing well!
Staying home with my kids for almost two decades (my 15-year-old daughter has borderline low-functioning autism, so she still needs me at home with her), I decided to go to school part-time and see what I could do. Since then, I slowly earned my AA in Liberal Arts, my BS in Psychology (that always makes me laugh), and a Masters of Public Health. Right now, I’m getting my post-graduate certificate in Medical Writing, which will allow me to work from home. 
In fairness the other side started it. 
Also have you seen the vitriolic comments from their audience members?
The TYT members? (I’ve not been able to see the show really at all lately, but this is my last week of school for the semester so I’ll be able to get back into it.)
When I hear White people complaining about how this country is unfair to White people and lenient to people of color as revenge for slavery (that’s a new one), especially when the evidence of this is given in bits and pieces of anecdotal references to back up their grievances, I seriously want to puke. It also saddens me when people blanketly associate mental health disorders with violent crimes. It’s important to note that only about 3% of violent crimes are committed by people with serious mental health disorders–and it’s typically because they are abusing substances, the far, far greater factor is substance abuse. For example, over 80% of domestic abuse cases involve substance abuse by the perpetrator. Perhaps we should focus less on the fallacies of systemic racism against Whites in our overly Leftist legal institutions and the high prevalence of societal evils committed by people with mental health disorders and focus on the real problems and then support these arguments with legitimate facts and figures to back them up. Quick fact: it was potentially deadly misinformation that touching microscopic (I started laughing when she said microscopic, but quickly stopped because she must know better and it’s dangerous to spread such disinformation) amounts of fentanyl cause overdose because fentanyl is not absorbed through the skin. Hearing different points of view is great, but I am sick and tired of hearing opinionated rants disguised as factual information, especially from people who should know better and whom people look to for unbiased truth. Don’t even get me started on the argument that DEI is the problem. Can you honestly look me in the eyes and tell me that you have a problem with diversity, equity, and inclusion?! I think I know what led your guest to Trump and it wasn’t his concept of a healthcare plan.
Labor (I know I’m taking that from UK, albeit spelling it differently), but, at the end of the day, aren’t we - who make up the overwhelming majority of the citizenry here (97%, 98%? I dunno…) - workers?
I saw that a few days ago. That’s an example of what I was talking about. Ben Dixon used to be a host. And of course, Mondale was also until last week. My feed is littered with these types of videos. Mondale really disappointed me. To go on another podcast and quit live on air? He never said a word to Cenk or Ana, just dissed them live on Ben’s podcast. But Emma was the biggest blow to them. She was at TYT for years. She and Ana were friends. When Emma joined the Majority Report, they remained friends. She used to come back and co-host TYT and TDR. Then one day, Ana tweeted that she didn’t like being called a birthing person. That was all it took. They talked about this during last week’s Operation Joy, and how much it hurt to have a friend turn on them like that. They ignored the repeated attacks for a couple of years, but eventually, they had to respond. And now that they have committed the sin of talking to the right about populist issues, everybody is piling on.
Yeah, that’s an old talking point from the 90s. Black failure, White guilt, same old song and dance. Was Ana saying that crap, or just her guest?
That’s awesome! Looks like all your hard work is about to pay off! My sister is developmentally delayed, so she came to live with us after my mom passed away. It was hard, since I was still working part time, but we made it work.
I honestly think listening to them is the first step. We should ask them to articulate their fears, then ask questions like, “You say you’re afraid that ____ will happen. How would that play out?”
I find that articulating one’s fears out loud often makes them less threatening. Many of our fears sound pretty unlikely when we voice them out loud. Others sound more reasonable, but less insurmountable.
Once they begin to see the risk as more manageable, we can get together with them and walk through possible ways to address those concerns. As the concerns begin to shrank, the possibilities for good things to happen is easier to recognize.
No, I meant the other channels. Humanity really should be questioned.
They both were, unfortunately, which is why I was so mad. It would be bad enough if the guest was and Ana didn’t stop or challenge it.
I thought in the podcast he said that he had texted both Cenk and Ana before he said anything in public, but I could be wrong.
Thank you, I’m excited to get out there and start working! That’s great how you have your sister with you, not everyone would make the sacrifice to do something like that.
Wow! That’s really disappointing. I’m gonna have to watch that video. That is some BS. Ana has had a few takes that caused me to say wtf, but that’s over the top.
As for Mondale, what he actually said was “I’m gonna have to text Cenk and Ana.” He made the decision on the spot, during the podcast. That’s why the other two were caught so off guard.
Yeah, she lived with us for 7 years. It was tough, to be honest. My ex-wife died 3 months after my mom, so my kids were grieving both of them. Add to that the usual blended family drama, and you have a stressful environment. My 2 daughters were still living with us, so the problems were magnified. And since my current wife and I were working full time, then coming home and dealing with all the drama, Tanja didn’t really get the engagement and activity she needed. She is so much happier now, living in the home of a woman who’s only job is to provide all of her needs. She was Tanja’s counselor at sheltered workshop for 5 years, so she knows her well. And the woman’s mother, who also lives there, is a lot like our mom, who Tanja misses intently. We see and talk to her all the time, take her out for lunch and other activities. She also spends holidays with us. Such a great program! I think it saved our entire family.
I think your summary and approach is too one-sided, there are some criticisms that are being levied at Cenk and Ana and TYT that are grounded in some validity and need to be answered with greater introspection. Furthermore, the criticisms are definitely not just coming from Progressive channels, but from TYT insiders who are quitting or disagreeing.
However, I do agree that, to a decent extent, there are excellent answers that TYT and Ana and Cenk can offer, or try to offer.
Speaking as a non-“progressive”, but also as a voter who has voted anti-Republican in the last seven presidential elections, I think there are extremely difficult, lengthy, non-intuitive conversations that Progressives need to start having about the lessons they should or should not be taking away from the 2024 election debacle. It is also, I think, quite hard to know what to do in the face of the country’s vote to (in effect) end the rule of law by voting in a President who stands for (in effect) treating the Constitution like toilet paper. In the face of these challenges, one might decry infighting as being counter-productive. However, I think a certain amount of it is inevitable and healthy.
While Progressives have a lot to think about (including their unquestioned premises as to whether they have the moral high ground in some matters) I also think that TYT thought leaders Ana and Cenk are taking a tack that is questionable. I don’t say it is right or wrong in all matters, but they must remain open to discussion, and I am not sure they have. The air could be cleared perhaps by holding a series of extended discussions with their colleagues about the best way to respond over the next few years (and this is without knowing if we will ever have a free and fair election again.
other things come to mind:
Cenk (and others at TYT?) does deserve a lot of credit IMO for having been harsh critics of Biden. However, I think Cenk’s decision to run for President was not only questionable (he was not going to win a lawsuit about non-natural-born citizens running for President… I personally wish he had just hosted debates and discussions among Democrat and other candidates who were shut out of mainstream media discussions, and let it go at that), but I do wonder how this experience has impacted his own ability, and TYT’s, to see things clearly now.
As a viewer who donated what I could afford a few months ago, I am tired of the constant appeals for money. I would like TYT to do a better job of reviewing their options as to how they can stay afloat without engaging in this. I would also like them to do a better job with various other matters.
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In any event, notwithstanding anything above, TYT have shown leadership in being willing to host a certain amount of disagreement. That may save them to some degree.
At the same time, I think in the end, an issue here that (in my opinion) is harder to address than many progressive tyt critics seem to think is Cenk’s apparent decision to engage with the Trump administration’s stances more than most progressives are comfortable with.
We each individually have to figure out how we are going to navigate this constitutional emergency, and we also have to figure this out not only at a personal level but at the level of our public-facing political-economic views. I agree with Cenk in a long-standing way, where he seems to be willing to give both credit and discredit where he thinks they are due. There are very few people who do this, and it is not a good way to win a popularity contest because there are so many on all sides of the political spectrum (and personally) who are so anxious to boil down all political and personal conversations to dumbed-down low-hanging-fruit easily-understood sound-bites.
At the very same time, the fact that some of these conversations and deliberations can be harder and more complicated than some of us want to deal with cannot be used to contradict the fact that, in the end, one should have a clear stance on how to move forward. The critics seem to be assuming that their disagreement with Cenk and Ana’s thought leadership is not a major difference of opinion in how to engage in strategic opposition to Trump Fascism. Rather, they seem to think it is a difference in whether Cenk and Ana still hold the same political values at all.
I think there is also a third option, where Cenk does want to strategize as to heroically opposing Trump statism, and does share a lot of common ground with the Progressives, but maybe in some ways he is questioning certain points of assumed common ground. I do think it seems that Cenk is not as willing to discuss these matters as I would have thought, considering he has generally appeared to be open to genuine discussion.
Trump and his followers, notwithstanding their stances on some individual issues (where one can practice giving credit and discredit where due), … Trump and his followers are working hard to complete the ending of the rule of law. I think Cenk largely understands this. Ana maybe a little bit less these days, I’m not sure.
Ooooh, yeah that’s a shitty way to end things for sure!
WOW, that’s a whole lot–your family has definitely been through it. You and your wife are amazing and I’m so happy that everything has worked out. What did you do before you retired? (I’m sure you’ve said but I forgot, sorry. 
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Your last point is great along with the rest. Im relatively new to the american political scene and admittedly ill even say stupid things like “but your a republic” before i find out it has been used in those ways before. Sorry about that.
Yep i vote labor and greens here in kangaroo land.
I saw that as well and keep seeing petty comments like “John and Francesca are TOO smart for TYT” or “They should leave blah blah blah.”
Even others acting like TYT isn’t even what Progressives need. I do wish that TYT could fight back against this but they probably also know that it would make them look like they’re instigating or hiding something given how the Google algorithem loves to keep taking stuff out of context.
I mean giving how many times Cenk has been getting emotional on Piers propaganda show and calling out the Israel hypocrites and Candace Owen’s racist tirades and how they keep making it look like they owned him on-air is also I think PURE PROOF that he’s a human first and a political rights debator second yet many will just look at the clickbait headline or subscribe to what other smack talkers have been saying about him.
THIS IS BEYOND FRUSTRATING ON ALL LEVELS.