Top 3 Pieces of Legislation

I agree with you on the John Lewis Act most likely almost passed because his death was so recent to when they voted on it. That also makes me think about the Filibuster in the Senate. Maybe THAT should be the first thing we focus on and then we go for others. Getting rid of it TOTALLY would certainly make it easier to pass everything else we’ve talked about

First get the Senate to get rid of it and after that OUTLAW it totally on the federal level

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@pipiwige Good ideas . DACA is definitely one that we should consider especially since “Immigration Reform” is sure to be an issue talked about during the Presidential Election in 2024.

Term Limits for Congress and SCOTUS is another very good idea. I think that there would be a lot of public support for it also. As pointed out by @enduser the big hurdle with all this legislation would be getting the politicians to pass it and as everyone knows they NEVER do what we want they do want their donors want so it would be VERY hard to get that one done without going the WOLF-PAC route of getting an amendment to the constitution passed.

Transparency for campaign contributions would also be a tough one because once again it’s something that would hurt the politicians and they’d NEVER vote for it. But it could also be something that we would start on the state level and work toward a federal law later like Marijuana Legalization has been doing

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My votes for top 3 :
#8 immigration overhaul

  • We can get some aspects of immigration reform passed, it’s an issue that everyone knows is a multifaceted crisis and wants to see change. We have to figure out where our concerns can meet those of other Americans, but both parties have absolutely failed to address it.

#13 anti-corruption

  • Money is the problem, but getting it out is a long term goal. The initial move here I agree with, to get the dark money out into the open. This has support on both sides of the aisle.

#16/9 climate change

  • if we can get a declaration of emergency for climate change it would be a great push to get the ball rolling, but I think the moneyed interests could have too tight a grip. If we come at this from the infrastructure angle that I recommended we have more tools to defend it with, but it would be slower. I’m not optimistic about the 1.5C mark.

Thanks to everyone for taking part. Let’s all be positive about this vote and work together on the result.

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I can totally agree on the immigration reform. What we may want consider tho is focusing solely on immigration with like DACA as one, Reform the amnesty courts (more judges, speed shit up) as another , and also a way to make it so places like CA, NY, TX, and FL aren’t the ones that take the brunt of the immigrants that are awaiting their hearings. Maybe a way to have more midwestern states help with housing them in some of our bigger cities too.

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I think has broader support with less overt opposition. Maybe we could broaden it to include voting rights. We need to secure voting rights and judicial ethics for SCOTUS as well in my opinion.

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We need to subsidize and support owner builders especially1st time owner builders.

I think that we’d be better off being more specific on some of these. When you are talking something like Anti-Corruption that leaves a lot of possibilities as far as what type of corruption. Same with Immigration like I was talking about before with DACA, Amnesty, and housing applicants.

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My concerns were indeed mostly about us not necessarily having individual expertise, such as what I would think I would need in order for me to vote with confidence on a narrowing of our operations or focus. That said, @Galphar has since clarified for me that our voting and narrowing of legislative ideas doesn’t preclude continued development on ideas outside the narrowed scope. And I think I’ve gained a better understanding of how we’re narrowing with collaboration, rather than voting.

To summarize my understanding constructively, it seems our discussions for narrowing our legislative scope ideally should enable a shared understanding of which ideas could be focused on first and why, perhaps because how they are most passable, feasible, or something.

[Second half]:
For our consideration, rather than saying operation hope may collectively organize around a narrowed scope, perhaps we should clearly disentangle the parts of operation hope which broadly invites community members to work on legislative or otherwise political subject matters as they can, from other parts of operation hope which would benefit from the narrowed focus. This way, all the subjects continue development with our community working where they would best fit, while focused teams also prioritize from among those subjects for various stages of development and implementation.

(Perhaps that is actually already some of our intent. If we are to have both focused and general development, I would clearly distinguish the narrowing of ideas to not be for operation hope in general, as it had seemed to me, but instead some operational sub-set of our operation hope).

All the ideas would develop continuously, with both general and focused development operations. As ideas develop some would transition for more focused strategizing, implementation, etc. And some ideas may need teams to help identify and/or resolve roadblocks. Some groups could have various types of operations irrespective of specific subject developments, (ie: general groups for resources such as phone banking, video editing, researching, critical feedback, etc).

I would point out, should we follow this suggestion, we’d anticipate feedback between various aspects of operation hope. Because for example, the development of resources we can provide, the development of strategies available, the viability of legislative ideas, etc., is all interdependent.

So, in total summary, the first half of this comment is my understanding of what we are doing, and I’d appreciate any feedback on that. The second half of this comment is my thoughts on how we could maybe be doing things, and I’d greatly appreciate feedback on that.

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OK, Since we told Alison we’d try to decide on what 3 we think we should and can do tonight; Let’s dig into it.

For me I’d say John Lewis Act and DACA are the ones I think we’d have the best shots at accomplishing. And maybe the Amnesty courts funding as a third.

What does everyone think of those? If you think 1 is good and the other 2 should be replaced or 2 are good and 1 replaced etc., then speak up. My goal is to let Alison know what we decided when I login tomorrow before TDR

If it’s easier we can discuss this over in the Discord Chat also: Discord

I think the simple but meaningful things are what we should focus on to some degree.

Way back when this all kicked off the OG three were:

The original idea was paid family leave I still like this one.

I think a national voter holiday.

Ranked choice voting are all my three.

I really picked these because of scope and my own perceived feasibility analysis. I think building on wins could help gather momentum and improve morale.

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To expand from my previous comment, and agree with you: I don’t think we can know how feasible any ideas are relative to each other until after each are fairly developed generally, as well as developed with more focus towards what strategies an idea could use, what resources we could provide that potential strategies could use, etc.

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And, to at least be more in line with clearly suggesting my top three:

Student Debt Cancellation (or even more general debt cancellation, such as economic bill of rights).

John Lewis Voting Rights Act

anything/something anticorruption.

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Part A) Spotlight Bill is what I was referring to, stop dark money.
I had forgotten about the call for a national voting holiday, it would be a great benefit but would garner massive conservative opposition I think.
Getting people who are normally our opposition to join us in passing legislation would definitely be a game changer, and absolutely something to build on. It isn’t possible for us to know what all roadblocks we’ll face, but this is still just the first step on a long walk. We aren’t deciding an absolute path, just a direction. Top 3 to discuss and come to an agreement on.

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It’s looking like right now DACA and the John Lewis act are 2 very good possibilities for what we go with. IF that is true then it leaves one more spot up for grabs. Both Paid Family Leave and Student Debt Cancelation seem like they are up there to be considered for the third.

I spent some time looking over the suggestions so far and the post by @over9000 seems to overlap the most suggestions made by others.

I think this might be the path forward for now. I think Medicare for all should be our 4th if there is one and it makes a bit of sense to position it that way due to entanglements to industry.

Does anyone object to this direction?

Oh I I think anti-corruption should include preservation and extension of voting rights perhaps.

I love to see it! :+1:

I read this one that @over9000 gave a shout out. The Spotlight Bill

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In order of importance for me and the 3 things that I think we can bring voters together. I have ordered them in what I think will get the most bi-partisan action in my state from most to least

  1. Paid Family Leave
  2. Campaign Finance reform (I wish us all luck on this one…our reps are going to fight to the death to keep from happening)
  3. Immigration Reform

It looks to me now that we’ve narrowed it down to these 3 in no particular order:

  1. Paid Family Leave
  2. Campaign Finance/Anti-Corruption laws
  3. Immigration reform

If I don’t hear any replies by the time TDR starts then I am going to tag Alison with this as our 3

@alison_hartson In no particular order:

  1. Paid Family Leave
  2. Campaign Finance/Anti-Corruption laws
  3. Immigration reform
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