[video] The Shock Doctrine, Part 1: TYT Community Book Chat

We’re reading The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein. In this discussion, we reflect on the introduction and part 1 of the book. We talk about capitalism vs socialism vs communism, medicare for all, books vs articles, independent media, and more! These are just some highlights of our in-depth discussion. Join us for our next book chat on July 23 at 8:30pm ET / 5:30pm PT. Click here for details.

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Reading it now. Glad to finally do so.

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Great! Hope you can join our next book chat: Book Chat Friday, July 23, 8:30pm ET / 5:30pm PT

Embarrassed that I haven’t done the homework but can the Shock Doctrine be applied to vaccine passports?

What do you mean? Like requiring vaccine passports?

If vaccine passports are implemented they will forever alter our relationships with the world. With or without government blessings corporations may eventually decide who gets to travel, to work, and to access goods and services among untold other implications.The shock of the current pandemic will allow the ushering in of perpetual variant vaccines and boosters and the new security apparatus will morph into the feared surveillance state. The force feeding of vaccines may not only institutionalize a new form of corporate grift but it is also a new attack on Human Agency. Hopefully students of the Shock Doctrine will recognize if there is any validity to these murmurings of “Disaster Capitalism”. See also a persuasive article: A Case Against Vaccine Passports by Stavroula Pabst. (found in Passages, a journal of Canadian left wing perspectives). TYT does not endorse this dialogue and I can only hope that I never sadly say that I told you so.

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I share your same concerns and am glad to know I’m not the only one. This isn’t to say that I was the only one, but it’s not something we have discussed yet and with many on the left pushing for vaccine passports, it has left me very concerned for all the same reasons. Thanks for speaking up.

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Honestly, I haven’t given it much thought, so thanks for putting forth this take on vaccine passports. Mostly I’ve been under the impression it was just some fancy new way of saying vaccination records - which many jobs and some countries already require before entrance/exit - but now that I’ve searched and read one proposal for how it would work, it does seem a little dystopian.

It seems like the passport itself would be unnecessary since countries can require travelers entering or leaving to have certain vaccines before arrival/departure, and right now it is just showing proof at the gate or border. No storage of information, which is great. That seems like the only sensible way to go about it.

From my very shallow dive into travel vaccinations (just now lol) it does look like with Polio there was a fair amount of documentation fraud. However, considering it is no longer a worldwide health problem, and keeping the system we use currently would require a LOT less bureaucratic nonsense, it certainly seems like we should do what is already proven to work instead of reinventing the wheel - which could very well run us over if we let it get away from us.

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And thanks for pointing this out. It really forced me to look at this subject before getting swept up in whatever the popular narrative will be. I haaate how much time we have to devote to fighting legislation that is redundant AND dangerous!

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In Part 1, Klein mentions the 1965 coup in Indonesia, which became the blueprint for Chile in 1973. Vincent Bevins discusses this in more detail in The Jakarta Method. This week’s Committee Program features a long-form interview with him. Not only do we get an in-depth look into what drove the Berkeley Mafia to oust Sukarno and how the prepared, but we also get a lesson into why “Third World” and “nationalism” do not always have negative connotations.

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