How does Musk compare to the Industrialists who supported other Statists?

If possible, I’d like to see the author of this book interviewed on TYT, to get their honest take on how Musk compares to pre-Nazi-Germany industrialists and their decisions. And, for that matter, how does he compare to anti-semite Henry Ford and others.

https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/nazi-billionaires-3

Nazi Billionaires

The Dark History of Germany’s Wealthiest Dynasties
by David de Jong

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The Industrialists in pre-Nazi Germany thought of Hitler as a childish clown that they could easily control and manipulate. They admired his ability though to mobilize the 33 percent of the uneducated poor in Germany to not only rise up in unity against their own self-interests, but use brutality and corruption to achieve their means. They did not believe that Hitler was capable of murder, especially against them. Musk believes himself to be a genius when all that he really is is a sociopathic/narcissistic venture capitalist who grabs/buys up companies full of brilliant people and then drives them into the ground. I would have guessed – with all the money that has been thrown into the Military Industrial Complex over the years – that the United States would have been in greater danger from a Military Coup as opposed to a Fascist Dictator coming to power. I am not sure that the two necessarily go hand and hand, and I wonder if some of these meetings that are reportedly taking place at the Pentagon is about whether they follow Trump’s lead or bring an end to this Facade altogether or do they just sit and wait and see (being dedicated readers of the great military strategist, Sun Tzu) to decide when is the best time to make their move, if, in fact, they need to at all. Musk is not a genius in and of himself, so he is expendable to those in power, but not obviously in his own delusional and grandiose mind. After all, there are plenty of brutal capitalists willing to take Musk’s place. Case in point, you don’t think that JD Vance’s Big Daddy, Peter Thiel, is not waiting in the wings to take Musk down and replace him, if needed? Pull up a chair, grab some popcorn, because we are all about to witness a power struggle that is equal to the mythical battle between Godzilla and Mothra.

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“GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY! GOD BLESS!! YOU WERE A WONDERFUL AUDIENCE”’

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The blind leading the deaf. Unfortunately, they also rule our country.

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So, when the broligarchy bubble bursts like the housing market in 2008, which was made evident with their bent knees, how long until we hit the second Great Depression? I’ve been thinking that has been one reason why Trump is so keen on foreign investors, many of whom are from the Middle East (ironic?), and acquiring a (hemi)sphere of influence. What do you think?

It will be too big for them to bail out. I see 2 years of go-go; then it hits the wall…

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I’m sorry, but I disagree with this video. “Wall Street” (which is not one single entity) does not, by and large, appear to be dumping Musk. In fact, Tesla stands at $1.3 trillion in market cap of which (if I recall) Musk owns about 20 or 25%, so he is not in any sort of financial difficulty at the moment. In fact, since the election results, he has done well.

The author of this video appears to be (badly) mis-interpreting the Wall Street firms’ move to sell Twitter’s debt. I don’t know offhand if this is debt that Musk personally has to these firms, or if it’s money that is owed the firms by Twitter itself, but it sounds like (and I am just guessing) that the loans are not collateralized by Musk’s wealth. If they were, then the firms would not need to unload the loans, since Musk’s wealth is still substantial and solid.

This is not even to mention that if and when SpaceX goes public, Musk probably (unless I am missing something) stands to see a large bump in his readily-assessed (listed company) personal wealth.

edit to add:

I forgot to mention that I have read of plans to start a Texas Stock Exchange. I wouldn’t be completely surprised if Tesla or SpaceX or some other Musk-linked entity were to list there. If Musk has one of his larger entities list there, then, to a degree, this might amount to Musk distancing himself a little bit further from traditional Wall Street.

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Yeah, I was hoping for at least that. Time to get your finances in order, everyone! :disappointed:

Tesla’s sales went negative (not that it was grossly negative; but negative nonetheless when he has little competition in the US market…) SpaceX is a different thing; that could fare OK. But if Musk was a shrewd investor (he’s a shrewd picker…), he should have unloaded Tesla years ago with the current EV competition that is now starting to come to market.

And I stand by my suspicions: him supporting the H1B was not just about it benefiting him personally; he had a deal worked out for tech investors to prop up Tesla if he delivered on H1Bs.

Many people reporting on the H1B (Dore was one of the few to figure it out…) are missing that the reason many H1B workers are sought is not just their price, but their willingness to go along with unrealistic deliverables that will result in a shoddy product (because of their economic desperation…) American+Western workers won’t agree to that; it does their career prospects no good.

Many in the C-suite are fine with cheap+shoddy software because they’ll:

  • blame someone else for it; and

  • be off to the races with their stock options since they cut costs for the company that year (never mind that it saddles the company with software that does not let the company get its job done in an effective way…)

Just like there is “enshittification” of the Internet, this software policy is enshittefication of US corporations (which even Bannon gets…)

If H1Bs cost on average the same as US/Western workers, it will be quite interesting to see who companies will actually want. Sanders had the right idea on new H1B policy…

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New show:

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Yes, this content creator is a bit click-baity, but most of the creators are, and I think the questions are worth asking, as to how much his behavior will impact his businesses. There’s a lot of wishful thinking in these questions, but there’s some validity to asking them.

As it happens, I got rid of a Tesla Model S about a year ago, (the car of a lifetime for me) mainly due to my concerns about the CEO (and the amount of time he was renting in my head), though also there were one or two other reasons (it was out of warranty and so was a financial risk I wasn’t sure I could afford). I traded it, at great expense, for a used EV from another automaker.

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Does anybody else see the EXACT same modus operandi here, as when Musk grabbed Twitter? “Worst case, we wreck Twitter/the US…” (not that I think Twitter was such a gem…)

The tech bro’ accelerationism thing.

A fine philosophy if you have access to a well-stocked bunker (and like living in a bunker for the rest of your life…)

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That’s a shame: guys with no moral compass but wanted that sweet+easy money from Musk got doxxed.

Musk has already issued counter-threats.

Seeing as how courageous Google tends to be, I made a backup copy of that video. The Internet Archive should give serious consideration to moving out of the US, and getting a country TLD which will be legally hard to do a takedown notice on.

To anybody who questions the fairness of doxxing in this instance: what they are doing is legally wrong; where are their security clearances? But just try getting a fair shake with our Kangaroo Court! I would be the first person in a crowd to argue that we need to use due legal process to constrain the extralegal behavior of someone like Musk (with regards to security clearances for those staffers; and by a security clearance, I mean an extensive background check -not “Musk says I’m good!”) But given the track record of the Kangaroo Court, it is pointless to do that as of now. That’s unfortunate, but it is what it is. I would liken that doxxing to a citizen’s arrest of illegal behavior executed as a conspiracy (RICO Statute: “If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.”)

I would love to see that charge pursued against perpetrators who violated federal security laws; but does anyone actually believe, given their track record, that Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanagh, and Roberts will see a crime when they have already pronounced that the President has the powers of a King?! It’s over, ladies and gentlemen. If you see civil liberties being violated, just take action and stop it [but as Thoreau said: be ready to accept the consequences for taking such an action; none of this get-off-on-charges Ritchie Richboy shit Trump has usually been able to get away with…]

The reason Musk did what he did was he sneered and said: “What are you going to do? Take me to court? The one that will end up with the guys who say Trump is a King??”

The answer to him needs to now be: absent a working Supreme Court, we will do whatever is necessary to harry and harass you. Now instead of paying chump change to twerps to do your bidding, you will have to pay bouji salaries to mercenaries who carry guns and are willing to enter a Witness Protection Program for the rest of their lives. Sure: you will be able to ultimately pay for that; but we will push back on you every step of the way, because what you are doing is fundamentally unjust and ethically bankrupt.

Bring it on! Prosecute people who are fed up with the current torrent of injustice. Now you can send over the Gestapo (note to Marjorie Taylor Greene: that’s Ge-stap-o; not Ga-zpach-o…)

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This is getting seriously more fucked up by the day!

Update: while the names and pictures have been published of the twerps monkeying around with government data, which constitutes ALL our personal info, other personal details of the twerps were not (like: where they live; their email handles; banks they use; etc.)

I think at this point the job of Congress is to document what laws are being broken. But we need to be spared the fool’s errand of prosecution of people “in the club” who broke the law, given that we now have a Kangaroo Court. Reprisals against club members for breaking the law should just be extralegal at this point. Nobody should be shocked that it’s come to that…

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Details on what laws were broken:

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More:

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My point exactly with regards to the post above;

There is now no rule of law, except as honored by those who grew up with it; I think extralegal is the only avenue left to deal with people who sneeringly violate enshrined law. Going to the Kangaroo Court is a fool’s errand…


Update: Does anybody know the name of the PRIVATE security firm or firms enlisted by Musk that prevented the entry of members of Congress to the Department of Education??

Hey: personal names will also work for me…


Update:
The people in Elon Musk's DOGE universe | TechCrunch


Just a reminder:


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Update: For some reason Elon is getting nervous about getting sued if his security caps someone.

US Marshals Service deputizes Musk’s security team (link)

[If they shoot someone they thought was reaching for a gun, but it later turns out they were not, they have better legal coverage from civil lawsuits.]

Guess they’re getting more trigger happy, for some reason…


UPDATE: In this video, Cenk complains that he got blowback for talking to MAGAs.

It wasn’t just any MAGAs, Cenk; it wasn’t MAGAs who work for a living. It was one-percenters cosplaying as pro-worker MAGAs. You had to know they were acting in bad faith; so now you are experiencing guilt by association. Yes, I know why you did it: to reach out to MAGAs that work. But that was NOT the way to do it!


UPDATE: Teslas have a worse fatality rate than THE PINTO!


UPDATE: Don’t look now! Somebody just slipped with a chainsaw and cut their fingers off!!

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