I am finding it pretty nuts that most of the Repubs haven’t figured out by now (after the Iran action that is like shooting yourself in the head…) that they have to give this guy the heave-ho.
They’re really going to normalize his behavior as they rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic? If they were to crowbar him out in a couple of months, it could help things.
Wait until the midterms? I think all Americans will by then be presiding over a heap of cinders…
I didn’t know that many Dem Strategists want to take a wait-for-it approach to Impeachment. I can see doing that, if there is an issue with having enough votes. If he is, for the third time, Impeached and gets out of the Senate without a conviction, then that could be the final nail in the coffin of the Constitution, so I can see that argument being made. This isn’t my own final opinion on the matter (I don’t know enough about it), it is just to say I could see that as an argument that could be made, …. for not yet getting to impeachment.
Still, there are strong arguments for getting to impeachment immediately.
OH YEAH! Do a headcount first before moving it forward.
But my point is Dem strategists are TALKING like it can wait until the midterms. That really bothers me!
If 1/3rd of Repubs bail on Trump before the midterms, Dems need to be ready to act and close ranks on getting an impeachment done!
Perhaps Vance would be a new nightmare, but I refer you to the “known knowns” speech: we KNOW Trump just can’t possibly work; although Vance looks poor, he might be less of a nightmare than Trump. If he turns out to just be a different type of nightmare, we can always go back to the drawing board and also impeach him.
I see some talk afoot about impeaching Bondi; I think it will be more efficient to focus on impeaching Trump. I can’t see Vance retaining Bondi or Patel and you can always come back later to prosecuting them. Take out Bondi while Trump is still there, he’ll just put another legal crackpot in charge. Congress refuses? He’ll put a string of temporary crackpots in charge, and he’ll still do whack a doodle shit with the [PRESENT] Supreme Court [majority] claiming he has immunity…
Yeah, Trump is an immediate emergency, and the sooner we rid ourselves of him, legally, the better. Vance, Bondi, et. al. may all be worse or better, but we need to address the immediate problem.
I agree with your take on the way Dems are talking, I just hadn’t followed it that much.
They need to do a headcount as to how many Dems are on board for an impeachment. Then draft a public letter signed by those Dems, saying in effect: “Given the long-term global economic consequences of this latest unneeded escalatory threat, we are ready to act now and impeach. We need X votes (X in the House, Y in the Senate…) of Republicans to pull it off. We suggest that constituents of Republican Senators and Representatives contact their congressmen/women and convince them to close ranks across the aisle and get this done right away.”
I don’t care how amply stocked a congress member’s bunker is, how much they have in precious metals, or how much megadonor money they have earmarked -there will also be direct long-term consequences for them if they don’t crowbar Trump out soon! There is no longer an option here to wait until the midterms in the hopes you can get all donations on your terms. The economic damage can be even worse than the prior covid [extended, ill-advised] shutdown and consequent [inflationary] stimulus spending.
Even if Trump does nothing, declares victory, and chickens out, we have now hit the threshold for these chaotic actions. He is also talking about Greenland [AGAIN] and Cuba. [Add this point to the public letter, to cover that chicken-out contingency -even the damage after chickening out is becoming too much for the US AND the global economy; last I checked, much of the global economy still runs on the dollar, even if Trump is doing everything possible to discourage that!] We can’t afford the economic chaos from these actions anymore.
What would be the articles of impeachment? Take your pick: emoluments: the effective sale of pardons in broad daylight; war crimes; blowing off the judicial branch repeatedly, etc.
I watched Too Big To Fail this past week, which covered the 2008 mortgage crisis -hoo boy! To think how that now looks like a manageable problem compared to Trump/Hegseth/Bondi/Blanche/Patel/Miller!
[Though we all know TARP was mismanaged! Yes, Treasury and the Fed needed to reinject liquidity; but it missed a golden opportunity to remove risk-loving leadership from US finance which other countries just did not have…]
“…Check that support level come June or sooner! That’s my bet. We need to make sure the States prevent any funny business at the midterms, and my conjecture is many Repubs will bail on him….”
Let’s keep in mind that Trump is the Blackmailer-Extortionist in Chief. The primary concern for some or all of the Republican Senators will be whatever Trump, along with Trump’s team, allies, and Trump-loyal Republican party officials, have threatened the Senators with behind closed doors.
He learned from the best; didn’t he…
Popok thinks a pre-midterms impeachment is possible:
Meidas Touch: Trump White House ROCKED by RESIGNATION (link…)
Yes, Carville, has been extremely ornery lately and clearly wants Trump out before midterms. As do I-any way possible
Why in the world would he turn off his money printing machine selling pardons in broad daylight when the Supreme Court has given him immunity?? Dead wrong, James. He flies out to a non-extraditable country on his last day.
Only one option now: Impeach. An Article 25 would be extremely difficult to secure…
Dems: do a headcount of Repubs needed and a formal letter requesting of the Repubs inasmuch…
It’s very hard to make an Article 25 stick. If he had a clear and consistent slurring of his speech and half his face was frozen (demonstrating that he had clearly stroked out -the slight droop shown on pundit channels is NOT going to cut it…), it might be straightforward; but we’re not there yet. So do we wait for that? HELL NO! (just like you shouldn’t be waiting for the midterms…) So avoid the timesuck of an Article 25; wrangle the votes for an impeachment. Dems: sign a public letter and invite a specific headcount of Repubs to cross the aisle! Let the Repub constituents then go to work on their reps (or, scarily, not…)
But ask in a signed statement for a specific headcount of Repubs to cross the aisle and impeach him? Hold a War Powers vote?? Our hands are completely tied!
Humanist: Democrats Call for Trump’s Removal Following Genocidal Threat to Iran (link…)
Yes to his observations on the inaction of Congress; the Congress members like Schumer and Jeffries who are not stepping up to an impeachment WANT this Iran war to continue and are CLEARLY Israel First!!
Brian Tyler Cohen: UPDATE on Trump Cabinet invoking 25th Amendment (link…)
In one statement by Khanna (not this interview…), he said that at least an impeachment should be lodged as a vote of conscience.
Make sure the votes are there before you launch it! The last three impeachments (one Repub) had insufficient votes for it. It was not pretty for the voters after all that time had been spent on that procedure, only to have hopes raised and then dashed, repeatedly.
Just have the Dems sign a public letter of invitation to the Repubs to cross the aisle; that is not a timesuck and won’t raise expectations too high before the impeachment can be pulled off. If all of them refuse to act, it will be their funeral come election time (and unfortunately all of ours before then!) Point out to Repub constituents how many Repubs are needed; that will put more heat on that many Repubs!
So Schumer+Jeffries: what’s the harm in putting out just an invitation to impeach Trump to Repubs? Oh, that’s right! It might work against the interests of your paymasters -can’t block that Greater Israel project!
No War Powers vote, no impeachment invite for the Repubs.
You can start wiping the smug expressions off your faces about the midterms, Dems; most of you want to do impersonations of a ficus plant while we continue to allow Trump and Nutanyahoo to shit out a Mad Max future for the world by sitting around to see how the midterms turn out.
And Sanders: you’re a ficus plant too for not organizing an alliance of Independents to take out Israel’s capture of Congress.
The people who talk up Article 25 fall into two camps: those who haven’t read it and done the math on how it would not ultimately succeed, and those who lean towards Repub policies and know it wouldn’t work, but want to send off anti-Trump forces to have them go chase their tails and make sure no one takes out Trump (I would put Jones in the latter group…)
“We can have a test to see if he qualifies as non compis mentis…”
We have all witnessed how Trump is all over the place; somedays he turns in a minimally acceptable performance, others he’s batshit crazy. And you would want to roll the dice and see if he fails it? It’s a waste of time.
The guaranteed way is impeachment, provided you first make sure enough votes are there for it before it is done; and the Israelis are now not going to permit that (see my post above…) Time for an anti-Zionist revolution in this country. Time to pledge allegiance to America and NOT Israel…
So the Chinese ran a tanker through the straight -and the markets are doing an Alfred E.Neuman impersonation.
Let me connect the dots for the markets: who is supposedly insuring that Taiwan is not invaded? Who is supposedly insuring that there is not a disruption of global chip supplies??
And he had to fold like a house of cards because he had opted for an unworkable position?
Yeah, Wall Street boobs; stay tuned in to Maria Bartiromo.
Don’t worry, everybody! This will all be straightened out by the Dems after the midterms!!
