<sarcasm>Yeah, sure; Susie Wyles among others will sign off on it!</sarcasm>
Kabuki theater to keep Trump in office? Yeah, sure -I could see Israel-First Dems going along with that…
I wonder if Trump can be pressured/bribed into resigning. Various inducements could be offered to him including:
- full pardon by Vance (I assume Vance was hired on the understanding of various conditions, including this one).
- whatever cash he needs to make him whole (such as from his oil company backers).
Resigning at this point shouldn’t be too implausible since his physical and mental health both seem to be on the decline, and he could just play the physical health card if he doesn’t want to publicly discuss his mental health issues.
He’d want a lot of money -which is absurd when you have the option of impeachment at your disposal…
Not yet! Not the ones that matter: the ones with votes in Congress who can impeach him. The Repubs just OK’d a continuation of an Iran war, and both Parties just OK’d more arms for Israel…
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Cheri Jacobus agrees with me; some Repubs might actually run against Trump in the midterms. In historically solid red districts, they would have little to lose…
Trump has lost his marbles. He has no idea what’s going on around him. He’s lost his grip on reality (link…)
He is a negotiator. Everything with him is a negotiation. It would possibly be easier to get him out of office via resignation than by Impeachment and conviction. If the goal is to get him out of office, then this is a path we should consider. If we impeach him and fail to convict him (for the third time) then he will possibly become much more dangerous than he is even now.
Note that I do not necessarily agree with these arguments, … I’m not sure what is the correct course of action….. but the pathway of pressuring him to resign should be considered, IMO, even if it costs a few billion dollars and our dignity. (Then again, I’m really not sure this is correct. Would it do too much damage to all of us to pay him to go away? I think we may need to see him in prison? The situation is fraught with danger to all of us and our Constitution, no matter what we do).
Can you point to a time, post-Inauguration, where a “negotiation” worked with him?
I can only think of the time he cozied up to Mamdani, because he wanted some of those affordability pheramones to rub off on him…
That can backfire; it can leave Indies thinking you’re a Party that’s all about playing games and showboating…
Turks segment
Either you are part of the problem, or you are part of the solution. Both Carlson and MGT have been trying to take the wheels off of the malevolent sociopath’s gocart, preaching to the cult members where they went astray. And what do wr get from Kelly? Just a bunch of vitriol directed at Trump, and little effort is made to reach out to his dwindling cult members, to get them to repudiate him. She can’t be bothered? That’s beneath her?? Yo bitch! You HELPED make this problem!! At least pitch in and help to clean up the mess left by his stunts that years ago you helped to enable and normalize, smirking all while it was happening, never considering the possibility that the bill would one day come due for this country…
Patrie , she is such a fine Republican that never admits they are wrong. It’s such a long, established tradition in the Republican regime. { they are long past being called a party } How about FASCISTS ! Jack Callahan
So we now have polling worse than it was for Nixon (the previously lowest in polling history…) So what’s different about then (1973) and now? Why at this crossroads isn’t there a move to impeach??
I know many will say it’s a breakdown in norms, but I have a much simpler explanation: MONEY. The Dems do not want to impeach him because Netanyahoo does not want to have him go (no matter all the specious claims they might make to the contrary…) And the Repubs are also getting fat stacks from Israel.
So there you have it, ladies and gents: Israel has a bribery boot on the neck of our Congress. You might say: “What does it matter? If Trump gets impeached, they would end up with Israel-First Thiel/Vance!” Well, that’s a case of the bird in the hand vs. one in the bush. Vance might realize he has to do SOME reining in of Israel to have any hope of a 2028 run; but Israel will not want to take a chance on that.
I would welcome an outsider Repub rebellion against Israel-First and Trump. I am not seeing an aligned effort on the part of Dems (nor by Germany+Italy/the EU, for that matter…) to reign in Israel. Most of the Dems will only vote to rein in Israel when there is no hope of a measure passing thanks to Repubs and a block of Israel-first Dems. They are such a bunch of kabuki actors at this point! (excepting Khanna and a few others…)
Hi,
Since you’re very into this topic, let me ask if you have run across information as to:
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About how often are Impeachment proposals submitted in the House? (once per week? per month? once per year?) I would imagine some people try, if only to have the gatekeepers go on record as saying “no”.
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Is anyone keeping some sort of proper list of Trump transgressions that rise, in the opinion of some, to the level of Impeachment? What I have in mind is that if we eventually do get him removed by Impeachment, I wonder if the charges will be ones that some people didn’t see coming. After all, Al Capone was put in prison based on tax law, so perhaps something like that will come back to haunt Mr. Trump. One dark horse area of interest for me would be getting him on violation of the Emoluments Clause (if I have the term correct).
In answer to your second point, the strongest ones are emoluments. We have a clear linkage that he got profit for a Trump entity when he waived tariffs for Vietnam. Add to that: the numerous crypto scams (which are presently being investigated by Congress, NOT the DOJ!), selling products for-profit with his likeness, etc. Past presidents went to great lengths to distance themselves from marketing while they were in office (and even after they left…)
Then there are the acts of piracy and assassination around Venezuela. He claimed they were running drugs, but no effort whatsoever was made to interdict and present the evidence. You could roll up the various military transgressions as being flagrant violations of the Geneva Conventions, to which the US is a signatory.
Even if you could argue there’s a grey area with the Geneva Coventions (I don’t think there are, because no evidence was ever provided that the boat operators were other than fishermen…), there is also the deployment of the MARINES to California. There is an allowance for deployment of the Guards, especially at the request of a governor; and even the military, but only at the request of the governor. But the marines, a military force intended for defense against foreign powers, was never requested by the governor of California. During the civil rights era (how white power tries to forget that chapter -Eisenhower, mind you!), Eisenhower sent Guard troops to Arkansas. But note he never sent marines or the army there! His DOJ knew that would be illegal.
Fast forward to now: the War Powers Act. Hegseth and the admin thinks they can sidestep it by calling off a war, and then reconstitute it some days later. A judge looking at that behavior would say reconstituting the war so swiftly after it had been called off would make the calling off facetious and ab initio -as if it never happened. Governmental pronouncements are not to be taken as a game of cutesy tag! That would be akin to a store claiming the price of a product had changed since you picked it up in an aisle…
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Thanks, it sounds like you are sort of keeping a list. I suggest make it official and create a permalink where people can go and see progress on, and comment on, the different alleged impeachable offenses, perhaps along with polling, discussion, etc. Well, I guess a start would be just to list them in this thread or another thread.
I’m trying to think if there are others that you didn’t mention that I want to add. It’s hard though because a weakness of how my brain works is I forget much of what he says and does as quickly as possible.
Offhand, I think others worth at least exploring would be:
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in general, the DOJ under Trump appears to apply the law selectively to go after his perceived enemies. I think it would be worth asking if this is highly illegal and whether it could be prosecuted.
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Mr. Trump’s actions to harm the 1st Amendment to me are so offensive that it seems ok to mention them here. For example, the probable manipulation of the CBS deal to have Colbert removed from the airwaves, not to mention Trump’s various other statements and actions which have treated the expressions of speech of others as being something that could get them in hot water from his government.
The FCC licensing move would be good; the problem is they have so far only threatened that and not followed through.
The DOJ acting without regard to law requires you to impeach those officials at the DOJ (the AG and assistant AG…)
Bar Boards will be very busy after the current raft leaves. The grifters already have a contingency for that: have disbarred officials hired by think tanks funded by oligarchs…
If the Republicans somehow lose their majority BEFORE the midterms, that will be very funny to watch a new set of claims by the Dems as to why they can’t impeach him! (A: Because that will not please our Israeli overlords…)
I would like some Repubs to climb on board the Impeachment Train…
OK, they just followed through -add it to the list!
Unfortunately, as far as I know, there isn’t any public list. Is anyone keeping it? Can anyone provide a link?
Take your pick.