Ok, here’s a preliminary effort. Let me know if you want to work on it by private message, and I’ll try to enable you though I’m not sure how exactly.
edit one day later: I realized that the link I originally published made it a little hard to see the list. I am still struggling with zoho, but today I have created a slightly revised version that should make it a little easier:
change of plan, I’ll just be the sole editor for now, but if anyone has any input on reasons I may have missed, please let me know and I’ll try to add them.
Well, to a large extent I’m just duplicating the tables here:
So, I’ll probably just ease up, but still, I think there would be value in breaking out the different reasons in a more methodical way, and perhaps providing some sort of categorization or loose groupings, along with mentioning reasons that don’t yet seem to be there.
I don’t see anything yet about Trump’s history of S.A. and association with a known high-end pimp, but maybe that will show up somewhere, I haven’t finished going through.
In all of these matters, it is worth mentioning again and again that any one or two of these allegations would, if proven be grounds for impeachment and conviction of any other President, with both parties coming together on the matter, at least to a degree. In Trump’s case, the Republicans are utterly without honor in blocking Impeachment and Conviction. Their lack of basic human principles in voting for and supporting Trump is not something, I think, that can be addressed.
I jump cut to when Nixon took office. His early career and failed political attempts don’t inform all that much, but if you’re curious about that you can rewind it to the beginning…
It is NOT rocket science to figure out if the votes are there for impeachment, before bringing it to the floor. The votes are NOT there YET. An open letter inviting Repubs to join in an impeachment signed by Dems who want to do it would clearly establish if the votes are there for it.
We have to see if Massie prevails in his primary race on May 19th -next Tuesday. If he does, there will be a good chance that some Repubs will throw in for an impeachment BEFORE the midterms -possibly even outside primary challengers against Repubs who are presently seated.
Many Dems will NOT vote for impeachment because Israel does not want them to (the Trump-in-the-hand vs. the Pence-in-the-bush…) Yes: a number of Dems recently came out against accepting AIPAC donor money; but MANY are still addicted, and try to keep their allegiance off their sleeves.
Having a floor vote that we know will fail will clearly be a worse outcome for ultimately accomplishing impeachment; a “vote of conscience” gets us jack shit! Figures this terrible strategy comes from NADER, the guy who stayed in, in 2000, for the Greens and ended up giving a win to Bush -producing some of the most regressive environmental legislation not seen until recently with Bunker Boy, and ended up killing a nascent US electric vehicle program at GM, putting us 20 years behind other countries in the tech…
You might also enjoy this 7 part podcast about the removal of deeply corrupt Spiro Agnew as Vice President just before President Nixon was pushed out of office
If you do want to listen, you may have to hunt a little bit for which podcast system has the episodes.
I am not at all suggesting that this time would or should be similar (removal of a VP before the POTUS), except insofar as we can see that the wheels of justice did turn and the main prize (prevention of corrupt Agnew from ascending to the Presidency) was achieved, although it was arguably a bittersweet partially-inadequate result.
After the Massie outcome tonight, I say the impeachment will have to be partisan now (as much as I don’t think that’s a great idea…)
The Dem Party will see little reason to reform now that there is a much less competitive party challenging them.
Given that the Dem Party is co-opted by Israel in various subtle ways, I don’t see an impeachment coming from them even if they prevail in the midterms. The Israelis want Trump to stick around.
And Sanders can keep having the fantasy that his speeches alone will revamp the Dem Party (as opposed to starting an Independent alliance…)
No Ralph: you were wrong to not step aside when it got close in 2000 (and turned the country over to an administration that destroyed a nascent electric car industry and produced a raft of disastrous climate legislation -you were running as a GREEN, right??), and you are wrong now on impeachment strategy.
Where have you been this past year? Right now Trump has a money printing machine with pardons, crypto-bribes, insider info, etc. AND a Supreme Court that has mistakenly granted him immunity (I won’t focus right now on what could be done about that…), and you think he will have shame the way Nixon did and RESIGN?! If there is one thing you should have figured out by now it’s that
HE HAS NO SHAME!
Nixon resigned because he did not want to test the immunity argument with the Supreme Court. This Roberts Court? (which I concede needs repair at the next supermajority -if the US is still a going concern by then…) HAH! They WILL be supporting the argument he can shoot people on Fifth Avenue and get away with it.
Please go away; but before you do, make a formal apology to Al Gore. It was a fine thing you ran in 2000, but you were smart enough to know what might happen when the count got as close as it did!! At that point you would have been thanked for saving the climate and an early jump start for America with EVs if you had stepped aside.
PS I am skeptical about impeachment now because the Israelis don’t want one, and a majority of the Dems take their marching orders from Israel (though they’ll do some great kabuki theater that they do not!) The one hope was for a renegade Independent alliance; but with Massie getting kyboshed in a cracker State and Sanders only doing speeches while Rome burns -we’re fucked! (as far as working people getting a fair shake from Congress anytime soon…) Plattner is great, Khanna is great -but you need more supporting and aligned Independents that are difficult for the corporate Dems to screw around with (the way Plattner is getting screwed with as I post…) Spare me on Sander’s AI hallucination that his giving lots of speeches will change the makeup of the Dem Party.
Check out this informative doc on the Nixon impeachment…
Weighing in on the Platner thing: it was many years ago, and might have been disrespectful to her. It clearly must have happened at a point in their marriage when it was under stress. But he remained faithful, so now all these phony corporate Dems angling for donor money from Israel and tech monopolies at the expense of workers can shut the fuck up!
Farron appears to be in denial that most of the Dems are talking down impeachment because their Israel sponsors don’t want it.
Impeaching Trump IS an economic issue! What: you want him to continue to screw around with energy markets, mutually beneficial trade arrangements, and scaring off anybody considering US tourism?