Probably a bad idea but: I am wondering if it would be useful to invite Musk on for an interview, regarding a third political party

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edit to add: the reason it’s probably a bad idea is that Musk is so untrustworthy at this point, and is probably deeply at odds with what most of us would like to see in a new party. However, Cenk has shown a willingness to allow a wide variety of people to be interviewed, and for all I know might be able to pull off a reasonably self-respecting interview with the Musk.

Fact Check: Musk posted X poll asking if it’s time for 3rd US political party

Cindy Shan

Thu, June 5, 2025 at 1:39 PM MST

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Elon Musk posted a poll on X asking whether it’s time to create a new, third political party in the U.S. that would represent the “80% in the middle.”
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On June 5, 2025, during an explosive public online feud with U.S. President Donald Trump, Elon Musk posted (archive) a poll on X asking: “Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle?”

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He is a bad-faith actor; he’s a 0.01 percenter (!)

He is just scrambling to salvage his wealth after an ill-advised sojourn into politics (he was drinking his own Tech Bro Kool Aid; still does…) We should just count our blessings that he is wrecking Bunker Boy.

If somehow he were to walk back all the pointless unempathetic shit he did at DOGE, I’d be all for having him be an active participant in a global economy and political process. But I don’t see how that would be possible, unless he were to accept not being the world’s richest man and pay out of his pocket for all the damage done by DOGE staff (it was not their job to cut; it was their job to make recommendations to Congress, and let Congress decide what to ultimately cut…)

Think he would accept not being the world’s richest man?? Doubt that!

[Not every last thing DOGE recommended cutting was pointless; but it was not their job to cut. Their job was to bring a report to Congress and let them decide. All DOGE workers should have gotten security clearances.]

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Thanks, I agree he’s a bad faith actor, and cannot be trusted. However, Cenk has shown a willingness to interview some pretty unsavory people on TYT; RFK Jr. is who I had in mind when I created this thread. I would be curious, if anyone has seen Cenk talk about the RFK Jr. decision-making, what Cenk has said as to his criteria for inviting people on the show. Well, I imagine that RFK Jr. is probably just plain more irrational than dishonest. I can’t blame myself too much for momentarily having the thought because I (along with many others) am desperate to have better choices in the 2028 Presidential Election (if a fair and free election is allowed by MAGA/Trump to take place at all), and for a moment I allowed myself to hope that Musk could really help even if his intentions remain nefarious. But then I thought it’s probably not a good idea.

Personal note: about 15 months ago I sacrificed a large amount of money (by my standards) to get out of an old-but-good-condition Tesla Model S 70, and replace it with a Kia EV. This meant sacrificing the free supercharging and free connectivity that goes with the car for the rest of its life. The reason I did this was that Tesla continues to employ their CEO. Scroll ahead a few months and that CEO declared himself Dark MAGA, gave a couple of Nazi Salutes at a major event, and supported the return to power in Germany of an extremist right-wing political party. Much of that is a “full stop” for me, particularly given the dozens of millions of people who died the last time that sort of duplicitous right wing extremist thinking took power in Germany. Although I deeply regret the loss of money, I don’t regret the overall decision.

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Well, RFK is nothing like Musk; he doesn’t have the wealth to continue to be dangerous and wreck things for workers. I actually find the freakouts over RFK to be somewhat uncalled for. Is he wrong on some issues? Sure. But he does not have a one-percenter agenda that Bunker Boy and Musk does.

Bannon is another one who you could have a debate with; but with Bunker Boy’s implosion, I would doubt there’s a point now…

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Speculation: Musk appears to be in denial that this will somehow eventually be smoothed over (as evidenced by him redacting his tweets…)

Trumpers will NOT forget it, and given their penchant to illegally abuse federal power, they will pull out all the stops to bust him. So Musk would have to accept that he will no longer be the world’s richest man. For just one example: the hacking arm of intel agencies would attack any digital presence Musk has. And the SEC will rubberstamp all sorts of rules to make any publicly traded company he’s involved with a train wreck (I have always pointed out with regards to the Tesla Boycott, since Tesla is in so many portfolios, what would be in the interest of Americans would be to get him to sell off his ownership -but of course, Trump won’t care if the economy gets further burnt down, so long as he gets even with Musk; being the sick puppy he is, he will enjoy seeing Americans struggle to survive from the comfort of his bunker…)

I just would like to see the abuse of power that has been done by both these guys to come to the quickest end possible. But from an amoral standpoint, Musk has a short time window in which to impart serious damage to Trump.

Being that he is presently in denial, he will continue to putter around; but if he really wanted to use nukes, coming out and confessing that he was in a cult would be devastating for Trump! (IF he were to, he would have to list solid exemplary reasons…) If he makes a good argument, that will cause many more people to put Trumpism in the rearview mirror.

I still would never trust Musk unless he were also to re-compensate Americans for some of the unjust damage he did at DOGE (and he also had no authority to do; that was for Congress -his job was just to compile a report…)

Trump doesn’t realize it, but threatening Musk not to donate to Dems is in our interest. But Trump will find out soon enough that a system that [SO FAR] sanctions BRIBEcoins will make him powerless to stop the funneling of money to Dems!

Wait for many (though certainly not all…) Dems to suddenly get religion about crypto. [Hey: require legal intermediaries and decentralized id, crypto can still work -and for that matter you won’t be able to stop crypto at this point; many traditional financial players have used it now and don’t want it gone…]

Hey, by now you all know what I want: an Independent alliance. It’s time to jet both Parties that do not fight for working class issues and also against pollution, simply because it’s unprofitable to do so..

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Direct Answer from Turks on your question:

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good segment, makes sense, thanks for posting it.

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Musk’s “America Party” is going to go nowhere; Trump will illegally use the SEC to take the wheels off of Musk’s companies, in which his wealth is tied up in. That’s illegal? When has that stopped this criminal?? (until we have an impeachment…)

Musk will end up behind Bezos in net worth; he will not have enough money to be funding politics. He had a very short time window in which to act, to crater Trump and the Repubs, and his denial blew that opportunity.

He wants to use the money he has left to influence politics? He should be funding Repubs in their next run if they fall in on an impeachment; then they can use the money to run next term -or retire! He should sell off stakes in his companies now, to hold on to that wealth, so he can continue to do that and keep it out of the clutches of the SEC and other compromised federal agencies and courts.

If he continues to think he can be a player in American politics and build a new party, it’s just more denial thinking and he won’t even get to see his score settled with Trump since he wasted money and time doing that.

“Hi; I’m the guy who helped turn over your info to Palantir, tried to buy a candidate in Wisconsin, and screwed up your SSI payments -want to join my new political party?”

Preposterous.

Want to double-down, Musk? It will be my pleasure to watch Trump shred your wealth (though it will not be my pleasure to see laws broken without any consequences…) Figure it out: if you get him impeached, he can’t continue to persecute you…

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I think you’re somewhat under-estimating Mr. Musk’s wealth (with or without factors that may be coming up that could harm it, and with or without the liquidity considerations that may impact such an expenditure consideration). Behind Bezos in wealth is hardly a point at which one is too poor to spend a few billion on American politics, if one chooses.

However, one bigger question for me, and one that TYT will hopefully ask if it ever does interview Musk on this topic (not that it’s likely or even that I think it would be a good idea, but maybe it’s not inconceivable, especially if Musk has to in effect go on the (virtual) road and sell his idea to American voters) … a question for me is why he does not choose to try to help fund the Libertarians. I think he will have answers for this, and I also think it’s unlikely he would be fully honest about the answers in an interview, but still, I think it’s worth mulling over why he has not gone that route.

I’m still thinking about that decent interview that TYT did with a Libertarian representative during the campaign. I was glad to see it, and am gearing up to ask myself (and perhaps use this board to discuss) how I will vote in 2026 and 2028, and whether I can pull the voting lever for another Democrat, given the extraordinarily inadequate work done by the Dems in 2024. Another person on these boards was getting into personal criticism of me for my failure to condemn the Democratic party leadership strongly enough for them, but setting aside their needless personal comments, I have come around to strong antipathy for that leadership, and with each day that passes with inadequate progress toward a sea-change in the quality of the multiple candidates we get from the Dems in 2028, I am wondering how it will be possible for me to vote for them again.

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Don’t worry, Elon; nothing’s stopping you from covertly bribing Repubs to impeach. But maybe you want to remain in denial and let Trump take the financial wheels off your company go karts…

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Its always worth inviting anyone who will, by appearing on the show, give Cenk access to their following. Anytime Cenk can get in front of that audience, en masse, its worth it. I am sure Cenk has invited Elon to come on the show. Matter of fact Id guess he spends what resources he can, trying to get him on the show. Thats just a wild guess, but yes I do think having Elon on the show is worth it. I doubt Elon converts any of Cenks core audience, but maybe Cenk can, even slightly, get MAGA to begin recalibrating on some of this stuff. Its worth a shot and Cenks numbers would shoot up for a day. Win Win!!!

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The “America Party” will be lobbying for the national anthem to be changed to Kanye’s “Heil Hitler”!

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Am I the only one seeing the America Party go nowhere right now, in terms of general interest? Sure, his bros’ will be in the tank, but that is NOT enough numbers for a “party”.

The money would be better spent just bribing Repubs to impeach; he’s counting down at the moment to a day when the admin attacks his companies on a purported legal basis. I don’t give a rat’s ass how much legal firepower he thinks he has -his companies are playing on turf where the rules can be rigged against him…

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Also,

Maybe it’s not a great idea to start a new political party … counting on a lot of grassroots support to make it a legit success, … and then go manipulating your own private AI to be fascism- and Hitler-sympathetic, when potential grassroots supporters are asking themselves if they could trust you to do a good job of thought-leadership in defining the need for, and focus of, the proposed new party.

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I still don’t know if I think it would be a good idea or not to invite Musk on the show for a proper interview, but I have come to the conclusion that some of this is a bit more complicated than I had previously been able to think out, and I doubt that a proper interview would be allowed by Musk to take place. A proper interview I would define as one where Cenk or Ana or other hosts were able to ask good questions, including a number that Musk does not want to hear, and he agrees not to storm out of the interview in a huff, but actually to make an attempt to answer the questions.

Musk is in the final analysis not trustworthy, nor a person of clear moral integrity. I can see him trying to manipulate any invite to ultimately protect himself from any uncomfortable interviews, or to pressure the interviewers into conducting a non-standard non-proper interview.

I suppose if/when he wants, he could just go on Joe Rogan and spout whatever pseudo-freedom-defending rationalizations.he has cooked up.

However, he is a little bit more vulnerable than he used to be, because his new party goals require some grassroots buy-in from millions of people, and while he may have enough liquid wealth to create 10 political parties, it is not enough to make the sale with enough people for a new party to get the sort of traction he wants. So, this leads to a question of how far he or his representatives will be willing to go in putting themselves out there for interviews. And I suppose “representatives” is the key because once new party officials are set up, they will be the ones to sell at least some of the idea, and to sane-wash it on various media interviews, hiding those portions of Musk’s real agenda that are actually anti-freedom, anti-individual-rights, and anti-human-being

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He’s damaged goods! He’s the alpha one-percenter that will always rationalize that cause of capital accumulation into a blackhole…

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To be clear, I don’t see a world where Elon Musk ever agrees to be interviewed by Uygur and/or Ana. However, for purposes of discussion we have decided he will. For me, I would pay to see that. I am good for up to $19.99 maybe even $29.99 if it were a pay-per-view event! It would benefit the Progressive movement, and the network gets a good pay day. Even with kid gloves he would expose Musk as a fraud and he would do it in front of Musk’s sycophants, as well as TYT Nation. I vote a resounding YES PLEASE!!!

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