The Shutdown of 10/2/2025 (more to come, I'm sure...)

Somebody should do a sketch where a news crew interviews some police detectives (local, of course…) on how they are negotiating with the Trumpers in the current federal employee hostage situation.

“Well, we offer them maybe some cigarettes and coffee; then we might get them to release handicapped employees at first…”

I don’t see why, but the Dems have done a bad job of explaining ONE of the things they are seeking in medicare: the preservation of coverage for LEGAL migrants and refugees fleeing a situation that has been deemed by a court to be dangerous. I had to get the 411 from the BBC, a foreign publication. Perhaps that’s corporate media putting its thumb on the scale? In the American press I just get Dems saying the claim of illegal immigrants getting healthcare is a lie, but no explanation of how so…

I’m not the first to think it (they speculated it on Dore…) -but is it possible that the shutdown is an effort by BOTH PARTIES to buy more time and get congress members to defect from Massey’s Discharge Petition??

I said it before on this forum, and I will say it again: knowing how many Dems AIPAC has bought, I do not have a good feeling about this.

If enough Dems defect to sabotage the Discharge Petition, there will be massive blowback against the Dem Party (Ro Khanna and others noble intentions notwithstanding…)

The Dems made an offer for a one year extension. Shrewd move -that means a vote would come up after the midterms. The Repubs understandably passed on that, but that puts more pressure on the Repubs to make a counteroffer.

I hear the admin is suggesting Repubs make a an offer to make direct payments to insured. If they can guarantee that in writing for a year, I think the Dems could live with it. It will show they fought for healthcare, even if it’s not exactly how they wanted it done. The Dems can point out to the insured: “Do you think the Repubs were going to give you that if we DIDN’T put up this shutdown fight?”

The latest: some Dems have argued that sending the money directly to constituents will reduce their overall coverage.

OK: split the difference. Agree to allow each constituent to decide whether it goes to them directly or to Medicare coverage. At least making that counteroffer will rope in the Repubs even more; and if constituents make a bad choice, it will be on them.

The principle is: the insured get to decide the form of their coverage: Obamacare or direct payment. Not Trump, the Repubs, nor the Dems. And it has to be in writing, for at least a year…

Der Hey.

Let it be a decision made by each insured person. If he denies that choice, that will get more people even more pissed at him (if tit’s even possible to get more pissed at him at this point…)

If the Repubs keep this up after such compromise offers have been made, it’s time for States to do a soft secession -withhold revenue collected for the Feds, to cover these SNAP and health insurance shortfalls…